(told guest5213)
guest5213(U) tells you:
welcome
Guest5213 (U) tells you:
Marcozy was better than Schleicher.
Xtell guest5213! Agreed
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells you:
Fine was better than Marshall
Xtell guest5213! Ok.
Agreed
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells you:
Rubinstein was better than Bogoljubow
Xtell guest5213! Yes
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells you:
Lasker was better than Pillsbury
Xtell guest5213! Agreed
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells you:
Pillsbury was better than Chigorin
Xtell guest5213! Agreed
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells you:
Geller was better than Najdorf
Guest5213 (U) tells you: I
said Geller was greater than Najdorf
Xtell guest5213! Agreed
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells you:
Bernstein was better than Teichmann
Xtell guest5213! Ossip?
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells you:
yes
Guest5213 (U) tells you:
not Jacob of course
Xtell guest5213! Not sure.
(Told guest5213)
Xtell guest5213! Maybe
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells you:
Capablanca was greater than Alekhine, even though he lost to him in their
match
Xtell guest5213! Agreed
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: Bronstein was greater than Larsen
Xtell guest5213! U
thinks so?
(Told guest5213) Larsen
was better
Xtell guest5213! Maybe
(Told guest5213)
Xtell guest5213!
Bronstein did play Botvinnik for the world champ
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: Steinitz was greater than Morphy
Xtell guest5213! Not
sure about that
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: do you disagree with it?
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: or just not sure?
Xtell guest5213! Well
Morphy career was short
(Told guest5213)
Xtell guest5213! Based
on career length I say it's true
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: yes. Morphy's career was short too
Xtell guest5213! That’s
whom I am talking about
(Told guest5213)
Xtell guest5213! Morphy
career was short
(Told guest5213)
Xtell guest5213! What
two years
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: yes, but I mean Steinitz' play at his peak was greater than Morphy's
play at his peak
Xtell guest5213! I
disagree, U
thinks so?
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: I think so
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: anyway, let's move on
Xtell guest5213! Ok
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: Stein was greater than Timman
Xtell guest5213! I
disagree
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: aha!
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: you've disagreed!
Xtell guest5213! I do \
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: you think Timman accomplished more in his chess career than Stein in
his?
Xtell guest5213! Well
Stein died young
(Told guest5213)
Xtell guest5213! what
he died at
40
(told guest5213)
Xtell guest5213! Stein
never qualified for a world championship
(told guest5213)
Xtell guest5213! Karpov
says he had limit opening
(told guest5213)
Xtell guest5213! I
think Timman did more .. Than Stein
(Told guest5213, who
has been idle for 2 minutes)?
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: hmm
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: let me check into that
Xtell guest5213! Stein
won a few USSR championships
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: look at all the World Champs that Stein beat
Xtell guest5213! He
didn’t beat Fischer or Karpov
(Told guest5213)
Xtell guest5213! He
also never did well at the interzonals
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: no, but he did beat Smyslov, Tal, Petrosian, Spassky...
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: and I would argue that the USSR championships he won were more
difficult to win than any tournament Timman won
Xtell guest5213! Timman
did play Karpov for a fide world champ in 1993
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: yes but that wasn't exactly the world championship anymore
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: and anyway he was beaten pretty badly
Xtell guest5213! True.
But at least he got into it. Made the final candidate match
(Told guest5213)
Xtell guest5213! But he
has beaten Karpov. And Stein never did
(Told guest5213)
Xtell guest5213! Not
sure about Timman record against Spassky, Tal, Petrosian, Smyslov. But I bet
he beat a few of them
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: well, he had a negative record vs. Spassky
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: a negative record vs. Tal
Xtell guest5213! Well
did he beat them or not?
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: never beat Petrosian, but lost twice to him
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: he beat Tal and Spassky but had negative records against both of them
Xtell guest5213! Well
no crime there. What was Stein record against those players?
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: had a negative record against Smyslov
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: and of course a heavily negative record against Karpov and Kasparov
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: ok, let me check Stein
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: Stein had an equal record with Smyslov ... +1 - 1 with a many draws...
Xtell guest5213! Lets
also recall. Timman was a young man when playing those stars
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: yes, but Stein was always a young man
Xtell guest5213! Well
he was 40 when he died. In what 1973
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: right, but I mean many of his games were also as a young man
Xtell guest5213! So. He
was near age of Spassky, Tal, Petrosian
(Told guest5213)
Xtell guest5213! Timman
was close in age to Karpov
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: nothing wrong with being a young man
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: anyway, let's keep checking the record
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: Timman has negative record against all the World Champs
Xtell guest5213! Yes.
But his chess abilities were stilled developing
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: Stein has = score against Smyslov
Xtell guest5213! No
crime there
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: +2 against Tal with no losses
Xtell guest5213! Ok.
Well
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: let me check Petrosian
Xtell guest5213! When
did they play? When Tal was sick
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: they played many games
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: let me check all their games
Xtell guest5213! Stein
never qualified for a world championship process
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: he beat Tal in 66 and in 71
Xtell guest5213! Oh ok
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: they played 13 games overall
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: and he never lost
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: ok, now to Petrosian
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: Stein was +1 against Petrosian with no losses
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: in eight games
Xtell guest5213! Ok
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: Spassky
Guest5213 (U) tells
you:
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: Stein was +3 against Spassky with no losses (!!) out of 11 games
Xtell guest5213!
Interesting
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: against Karpov he was -2 with no wins out of 5
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: and of course against Fischer he lost once and drew once
Xtell guest5213! Ok
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: but against all the other world champs he had a + score, except Smyslov
whom he had an equal score against
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: pretty impressive
Xtell guest5213! Yes.
Hey he was an excellent player. But so was Timman
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: yes, but it seems to me Tim man’s specialty was more in beating the
weaker players, but not as strong against the very best
Xtell guest5213! Who
had a higher rating rank?
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: I don't know ... I don't think there were really ratings for most of
Stein's life
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: Timman and Stein only played one game against each other, with Timman
as White, and it ended in a boring 16 move draw
Xtell guest5213! Oh ok.
(Told guest5213)
Xtell guest5213! But
Timman was young when they played
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: in terms of world rank they both reached #3 in the world
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: no higher for either of them
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: according to Somas, anyway
Xtell guest5213! Oh
stein was #3
(Told guest5213)
Xtell guest5213! When?
(Told guest5213)
Xtell guest5213! I
thought Timman was up there
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: yes, from 1966-67
Xtell guest5213! Oh.
What about Timman?
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: Timman was #3 a lot...
Xtell guest5213! A lot
longer?
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: well, for 13 months overall
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: but over a span of 5 years
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: between 1984-1989
Xtell guest5213! Who
stayed in the top 10 longer
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: whereas Stein was #3 for half a year between 66 and 67, according to
Sonas
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: hmm
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: let me check
Xtell guest5213! Who is
Sonas?
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: a statistician
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: you don't ever read his articles on chessbase?
Xtell guest5213! Where
is u getting these stats? Is there a web site?
(Told guest5213)
Xtell guest5213! I do.
Yes.
(Told guest5213)
Xtell guest5213! Oh ok.
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: yes, there's a site: www.chessmetrics.com
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: well, it seems that Timman was in the top ten at various times from
1978-1992
Xtell guest5213! I will
have to check this sit out more
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: Stein was in the top ten from 64 all the way through his death in 73
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: yes, it's a cool site
Xtell guest5213! Oh ok
(Told guest5213)
Xtell guest5213! What
about Timman
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: Timman was in the top ten from 78-92, but with some breaks
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: a very long time span, no doubt
Xtell guest5213! I kind
of give Timman the edge. because of the candidate experience
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: Stein's peak rating, according to Sonas' system, was 2759
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: Timman's was slightly higher
Xtell guest5213! Oh it
was
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: according to Sonas, Timman's peak rating was 2768
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: so Sonas gives Timman the edge on peaks...
Xtell guest5213! Oh ok
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: Timman's best individual performance rating was 2809 (!!) in the
Rotterdam World Cup, 1989
Xtell guest5213! Ok
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: which trumps Stein's best individual performance of 2767 in Moscow, 67
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: so yeah, I guess Timman has to get the edge
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: despite Stein's impressive record vs. the world champs
Xtell guest5213! Ok.
But stein. Seem to falter in the interzonals
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: yeah
Xtell guest5213! Timman
won an interzonal
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: it's a shame he died young though, as he was still at the top of his
game
Xtell guest5213! Had
had a impressive match record
(Told guest5213)
Xtell guest5213! Hey
stein was a great player
(Told guest5213)
Xtell guest5213! They
were in different eras. Even thought they overlapped
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: yes
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: Sonas ranks Lasker as greater than Capablanca overall, even though Capa
beat Lasker
Xtell guest5213! Well
Lasker had a great 25 year period
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: but he even ranks Laser’s peak rating as higher than Casablanca’s peak
Xtell guest5213! Capa
was a bit lazy
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: and his best individual performance was higher than Capa’s...
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: although I don't know.
Xtell guest5213! Also
capa beat old man Lasker
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: yeah
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: in Havana
Xtell guest5213! In
fact. Lasker gave his title to Capablanca. Before the match and insisted
that he Lasker be called the challenger
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: right
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: well he tried to give his title before the match but Capa refused
Xtell guest5213! Capa
wanted an official transfer of power that only a match can bring
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: I'm going to say Keres was greater than Reshevsky
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: agree?
Xtell guest5213! Agreed
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: hmm, between Bronstein and Keres...?
Xtell guest5213! Keres
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: I'm going to go with Bronstein
Xtell guest5213! Ok
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: let's take a look
Xtell guest5213! Ok
(Told guest5213)
Xtell guest5213! Keres
beat all the world champs from capa to Fischer.
(Told guest5213)
Xtell guest5213! He
might have taken Karpov too. But not sure
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: no, he never beat Karpov
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: ok, here's the thing
Xtell guest5213!
Bronstein did challenge Botvinnik for the world champ
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: head to head Bronstein beats Keres 5-3, with 17 draws
Xtell guest5213! Oh ok
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: let's take a look at what Sonas has to say
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: because head to head isn't everything
Xtell guest5213! Right
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: ok, Keres' highest rating is 2786, in March 1947
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: Bronstein's is 2792 in June 1951
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: according to Sonas
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: close call...
Xtell guest5213! No
doubt it's a close call
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: Bronstein's best individual performance was in Gothenburg Interzonal,
1955, with a 2813 performance rating
Xtell guest5213! Oh ok
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: Keres is slightly higher on this one...
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: with 2836 performance rating for Bled/Zagreb/Belgrade Candidates, 1959
Xtell guest5213! Ok
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: but Bronstein had three 2800+ performances to Keres' two
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: hmm
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: well, we can say it's too close to call
Xtell guest5213! I
think so.
(Told guest5213)
Xtell guest5213! It’s a
tough call
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: ok, let's take a look at records vs. the world champs they both played
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: Bronstein was -1 against Botvinnik out of 30 games
Xtell guest5213! Ok
(Told guest5213)
Xtell guest5213! They
drew their world champ match
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: right
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: Keres was -4 out of 19 games against Botvinnik
Xtell guest5213! Ok
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: Bronstein was -2 vs. Smyslov out of 30 games...
Xtell guest5213! Ok
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: Keres was equal with Smyslov out of 40
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: wow ... ok, so far score one for Bronstein one for Keres. On to Tal
Xtell guest5213! Ok
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: Keres was +3 against Tal out of 22 games
Xtell guest5213! Ok
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: Bronstein was -4.... aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
Xtell guest5213! Oh.
Had a thought time against Tal
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: it was actually -6 but I was not counting their simultaneous match
against each other where they played eight games simultaneously
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: otherwise it's +6 in favor of Tal!
Xtell guest5213! Ok
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: Petrosian was +4 against Bronstein and = with Keres at three wins a
piece
Xtell guest5213! Ok
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: Spassky was +2 over Keres and +4 over Bronstein...
Xtell guest5213! Ok
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: yeah, we can say that Keres' record vs. the world champs was better,
especially if we consider that he also played (and beat) Capablanca,
Alekhine, and Euwe
Xtell guest5213! Right
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: all right, Keres gets the edge, just barely
Xtell guest5213! Ok.
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: between Keres and Kortchnoi?
Xtell guest5213! I
gonna say Kortchnoi
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: hmm
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: do you know their record head to head?
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: it's interesting...
Xtell guest5213!
Kortchnoi all those world champ matches. 3 against Karpov. Plus against
kaspy in semifinal match
(Told guest5213)
Xtell guest5213! No i
don’t
(Told guest5213)
Xtell guest5213! I
think Keres gave Kortchnoi a hard time. I think
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: well, I'm not disputing your choice ... I would probably also choose
Kortchnoi, but...
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: +4 for Keres, with no losses and nine draws
Xtell guest5213! Ok
(Told guest5213)
Xtell guest5213!
Kortchnoi owed Tal. 13 win 3 losses. And a bunch of draws
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: but according to Sonas, Kortchnoi reached #1 in the world ranking,
whereas Keres' highest ranking was #2
Xtell guest5213! Ok
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: Kortchnoi was #1 in the world in 1965...
Xtell guest5213! Really
I didn’t any that
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: well, according to Sonas. Kortchnoi was #1 and you know who was #2
then? Hint: not Spassky or Fischer
Xtell guest5213!
Fischer
(Told guest5213)
Xtell guest5213! Really
whoa. Petrosian
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: nope
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: not Petrosian either
Xtell guest5213! Keres
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: ok, Spassky was #3; Fischer was #4, Petrosian #5
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: Keres was as far down as #10 at that time
Xtell guest5213! Oh.
Tal?
(Told guest5213)
Xtell guest5213!
Larsen?
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: you guessed it :)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: the great Mishap Tal
Xtell guest5213! Tal
was great
(Told guest5213)
Xtell guest5213! He had
a great run in Montréal in 1979. Tied for first with Karpov. I think that
was the toughest tourney ever
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: vying with Kortchnoi for #1 in the world at that time, but Sonas gives
it barely to Kortchnoi for five or six months in 1965
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: Montreal 1979 the toughest tourney ever?
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: hmm, let's see what Sonas has to say
Xtell guest5213! Well
ok
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: not that Sonas is god or anything
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: he could be mistaken, of course
Xtell guest5213! Hey
it’s a good site.
(Told guest5213)
Xtell guest5213!
Interesting. I need to check it out
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: he put tons of work into it
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: he's certainly the authority on chess statistics, regardless of whether
or not we agree with him
Xtell guest5213! He did
(Told guest5213)
Xtell guest5213! Right
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: hmm
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: Montreal 79.
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: according to Sonas, anyway
Xtell guest5213! Ok
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: was just the 79th strongest tourney of all time
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: still very strong, no doubt
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: but Sonas ranks it 79
Xtell guest5213! Oh.
Really
(Told guest5213)
Xtell guest5213! Ok
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: oh, my bad
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: 74
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: not 79
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: but still down they’re among the greatest ever
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: the main reason for that is it was missing the #2 and #3 players in the
world
Xtell guest5213! Oh ok
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: strongest tournament of all time was a tie between Linares 93 and ...
get this Vienna 1882!!
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: with 9 of the top ten players participating
Xtell guest5213! Wow
1882
(Told guest5213)
Xtell guest5213! How
does Corus 2005 stack up?
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: hmm, unfortunately his tournament analysis only goes through 2004
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: guess who had the strongest tournament performance rating of all time?
Xtell guest5213!
Karpov?
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: excellent. You know for which event?
Xtell guest5213! `994
lineages
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: right
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: second best tournament performance of all time?
Xtell guest5213!
Fischer
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: Kasparov
Xtell guest5213! Ok
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: for Tilburg, 89
Xtell guest5213! Oh ok
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: third best for.... the great, the great Emanuel Lasker!
Xtell guest5213! Ok.
1914?
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: London 1899
Xtell guest5213! Oh ok
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: no, Petersburg 1914 ranks as #18 of all time
Xtell guest5213! Ok
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: it goes Karpov, Kasparov, Lasker, Kasparov (again), and then Tal for
the Candidates tournament of 1959, followed by Alekhine for San Reno '30,
Kasparov again, and then Alekhine again for Bled 31, followed by more and
more Kasparov's
Xtell guest5213! Right.
Kaspy has a great tourney record
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: Fischer is only #23 when it comes to best all time tournament
performance
Xtell guest5213! Ok
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: but he does have, of course, the best match performance of all time
Xtell guest5213! Was
that his blitz tourney?
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: 6-0 vs. Larsen
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: no, I don't think Sonas counts the blitz tourneys
Xtell guest5213! Right.
Even hydra. Didn’t do that
(Told guest5213)
Xtell guest5213!
Fischer did it twice
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: Fischer's #23 all-time tournament performance was for Palma de
Mallorca, 1970
Xtell guest5213! Right
interzonal
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: yep
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: strongest match of all time?
Xtell guest5213!
Kasyanov vs. Karpov
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: yes, Kasparov-Karpov V
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: second strongest of all time?
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: Kasparov-Karpov III
Xtell guest5213! More
kaspy vs. Karpov
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: third strongest?
Xtell guest5213! kk
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: KK IV
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: fourth strongest?
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: KK1
Xtell guest5213!
Another kaspy Karpov
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: and fifth strongest?
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: KKII
Xtell guest5213! Right
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: followed by, finally...
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: sixth strongest...
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: another KK!
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: Karpov-Kortchnoi
Xtell guest5213! Oh ok
(Told guest5213)
Xtell guest5213! Where
does Alekhine capa fall?
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: and seventh strongest, also Karpov Kortchnoi
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: and eighth strongest also Karpov Kortchnoi!
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: ok, Alekhine Capa...
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: that's #9
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: so right after the eight consecutive KK matches
Xtell guest5213! Ok
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: so we can say Karpov participated in the eight strongest matches of all
time
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: amazing
Xtell guest5213! It is
(Told guest5213)
Xtell guest5213! Where
is kaspy vs. Anand?
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: #16
Xtell guest5213! What
about kaspy vs. kramnik
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: #15
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: those primarily because Kramnik was ranked #3 in the world at the time
he beat Kasparov, strangely
Xtell guest5213! Where
is Fischer Spassky?
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: and Anand was #3 in the world when he played Kasparov
Xtell guest5213! Ok
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: so it wasn't #1 vs. #2, hence the lower rankings
Xtell guest5213! Right
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: ouch
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: Fischer-Spassky...
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: you won't believe this
Xtell guest5213!
Spassky was in decline
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: Spassky, according to Sonas, was only #7 in the world at that time
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: in 72
Xtell guest5213! Right
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: so it was 79 of all time
Xtell guest5213! Oh ok
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: just behind matches I've never even heard have ... in 78th place it's
... got this...
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: Hirschfeld vs. Suhle, Berlin 1865
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: loll
Xtell guest5213! Not up
on that one
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: he
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: interesting though...
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: Suhle won the match so convincingly...
Xtell guest5213! I got
to check out this metrics site more often.
(Told guest5213)
Xtell guest5213! Sonas
got some really good stuff on it
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: it's one of my favorite chess sites
Xtell guest5213! Sounds
like a great site
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: get this, though. Suhle won the match so convincingly with 8.0/9, no
losses, that he was given a 2772 rating for that match and the 91st best all
time match performance
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: and this from a player I've never even heard have
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: apparently in 1865 Suhle was #5 and Hirschfeld #6 in the world
Xtell guest5213! Whoa
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: you know who was #1 in 1865? Hint: not Steinitz
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: and not Zukertort, who was too young
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: and not Anderssen....
Xtell guest5213!
Staunton
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: no, Staunton was no longer active
Xtell guest5213!
Blackburn
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: the young Blackburn was #14
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: I'll give you a clue -- it was one of Morphy's rivals
Xtell guest5213!
Harrwitz
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: and Morphy's most famous win, probably, was against this person
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: Harrwitz also wasn't active at that time
Xtell guest5213! Let me
think
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: well, arguably his most famous win -- Morphy of course had many great
wins, but I think this would rank as his best known
Xtell guest5213!
Loewenthal
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: nope, he too was inactive it seems
Xtell guest5213!
Paulsen
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: you guessed it
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: Paulsen has an extremely impressive profile ... looks like he got much
stronger after Morphy retired
Xtell guest5213! Ok
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: he reached #1 in the world at various times between 1862 and 1878,
nearly 15 years
Xtell guest5213! Ok
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: #2 in the world was not Steinitz either ... it was the
all-but-forgotten Ignatz Kolisch!
Xtell guest5213! Never
heard of him
(Told guest5213)
Guest5213 (U) tells
you: oh he was a great player, but also died young and didn't play a lot
because of professional obligations as a banker
Xtell guest5213! Ok
(Told guest5213)
Xtell guest5213! Hew
let’s chat again soon
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has been idle for 5 minutes)?
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